Hello Everyone,
I usually don't like to repost things from this site, considering it is known for harbouring Radical Traditionalist symapthies (at least in its comboxes, though a couple of months ago it got in a pickle with a anti-semitic sympathizer). However, I post information today to make a point that we have a balanced, proper Pope who respects PROPER worship and Tradition in the Church, and rightly criticizes those radical elements on both "spectrums" if you will.
Long story short, he had a private audience, and rightfully took aim at both sides of the spectrum of radical liberalism and traditionalism in these comments at the link above:
"I share with you two concerns. One is the Pelagian current that there is in the Church at this moment. There are some restorationist groups. I know some, it fell upon me to receive them in Buenos Aires. And one feels as if one goes back 60 years! Before the Council... One feels in 1940... An anecdote, just to illustrate this, it is not to laugh at it, I took it with respect, but it concerns me; when I was elected, I received a letter from one of these groups, and they said: "Your Holiness, we offer you this spiritual treasure: 3,525 rosaries." Why don't they say, 'we pray for you, we ask...', but this thing of counting... And these groups return to practices and to disciplines that I lived through - not you, because you are not old - to disciplines, to things that in that moment took place, but not now, they do not exist today..."
If you are wondering what this is about here, this is highly likely about the SSPX and other more radical traditional Catholic Groups. I would not be surprised if they are the group being referred to above. They do this, even with their youth in their little "Eucharistic Crusade" clubs. Really, they make you count your spiritual "treasures" and mark it on a treasure sheet and have a little magazine for the club with paper version of said sheet. Think I am nuts? See archived HERE for Canada's branch of the SSPX for the little "knights" in training. And you can get your very own treasure sheet here from its archives.
Think about this logically also. He has lived through or is familiar with the practices of such groups from his life experience in the Church. Also, he's likely gone over all the details with Benedict XVI or has access to accounts and documents alongside Ecclesia Dei with regards to the now stalled negotiations with SSPX. Now as Pope Francis, who cannot err in Faith and Morals, if he truly knows something is of spiritual concern, then it must be something pertinent. Fine maybe he won't do the Latin Mass, but this is more than just having a form of a liturgy in a specific rite. While I think that priests and laity who think that Traditional Catholic practices are "not valid to contemporary catholic worship" are haters of the Latin Mass (hopefully miseducated) and that excuse is offensive to me as a young Catholic, clearly the Pope isn't stupid and knows we are dealing with a different time. Turning back the clock in 1962 to a crystal clean image that these societies portray are NOT going to 100% counter the world, and in fact might harm those involved. Do a websearch for Ex-SSPX or people who've left and you'll see why.
".... The second [concern] is for a Gnostic current. Those Pantheisms... Both are elite currents, but this one is of a more educated elite... I heard of a superior general that prompted the sisters of her congregation to not pray in the morning, but to spiritually bathe in the cosmos, things like that... They concern me because they ignore the incarnation! And the Son of God became our flesh, the Word was made flesh, and in Latin America we have flesh abundantly [de tirar al techo]! What happens to the poor, their pains, this is our flesh..."
YES! A pox on both your houses! The left are wrong when they think they have an ally in the Pope. But c'mon, point blank, this bathing in the cosmos garbage is stupid. However, this is highly concerning for the Pope and rightly so! "They concern me because they ignore the incarnation!" This is HERESY! Specifically Gnosticism, the denial of Jesus' Human nature, which extends to his incarnation! If you don't believe that you are for sure NOT even Christian! Why you couldn't even be Muslim either, as they at least acknowledge Jesus' was human, though a great prophet. More than that this is stupid New Age, feel good, theology, which can lead one to a dark hole of spiritual emptiness and even possibly the occult. Finally, check the 1983 Code of Canon Law, for Heresy is one of the 8 or 9 ways someone excommunicates themselves automatically just by doing the act, latae sententiae. But then again relativists who make religion fit their selfish lifestyles don't believe in the devil and demons. News Flash ... the Pope does!
Therefore, all I can say is .... GO POPE FRANCIS. THANK THE LORD YOU KNOW HOW ONE SHOULD BE IN THEIR FAITH .... GLAD TRADS. :)
Pax, Julian.
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Peace, from the Catholic Sacristan.
Thanks for your commentary on this. There are so many blind, radical reactions (in both directions) to Pope Francis that sometimes I have a hard time hearing what he actually means above the noise of what people think or want him to mean.
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